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		<title>By: Malia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At approximately 2:00 AM PST, BART Police responded to reports that about twenty people were involved in the equivalent of a &quot;barroom fight&quot; on an incoming train from the West Oakland BART Station and the participants were &quot;hammered and stoned.&quot;...drunk &amp; high.
 
Officers removed Grant and several other men suspected of fighting from the train and detained them on the platform. Grant and another man ran back onto the train after being detained, but Grant voluntarily returned to the platform when officer Tony Pirone grabbed the other man and dragged him from the train
 
Pirone confirmed with the train operator that the men detained were involved in the fight.
 
BART police had been on edge before the shooting because two guns had been recovered in separate incidents along the rail line over the previous hour.[16] Immediately before he arrived at Fruitvale, Mehserle was involved in an incident at the West Oakland station where a teenage boy with a semi-automatic pistol had fled from police and jumped off the station platform, breaking several bones.[2]
 
Officer Pirone said he told Grant &quot;Stop resisting, you&#039;re under arrest, put your hands behind your back.&quot; At that time Pirone said he heard Mehserle say, &quot;Put your hands behind your back, stop resisting, stop resisting, put your hands behind your back.&quot; Then Mehserle said, &quot;I&#039;m going to taze him, I&#039;m going to taze him. I can&#039;t get his arms. He won&#039;t give me his arms. His hands are going for his waistband.&quot; Then Mehserle popped up and said, &quot;Tony, Tony, get away, back up, back up.&quot; 

Pirone did not know if Grant was armed. Mehserle had fear in his voice. Pirone had never heard Mehserle&#039;s voice with that tone. Mehserle sounded afraid.[8] 

The motion also states that the man sitting next to Grant also told police he heard Mehserle say &quot;I&#039;m going to taze him.&quot;[8]
 
Mehserle then stood up, unholstered his gun, a SIG P226,[3] and fired a shot into Grant&#039;s back.[21] Immediately after the shooting, Mehserle appeared surprised and raised his hands to his face; according to Michael Rains, Mehserle&#039;s criminal defense attorney, several eyewitnesses described Mehserle as looking stunned.[3][22]
 
There is disagreement of when, or if, Grant was handcuffed before he was shot. The day after the shooting, BART spokesman Jim Allison said that Grant was not restrained when he was shot.[4] Court filings by the district attorney&#039;s office say that Grant&#039;s hands were behind his back and that he was &quot;restrained and unarmed&quot; but do not say he was handcuffed
 
Oscar Juliuss Grant III, (February 27, 1986[26] - January 1, 2009), was the father of a 4-year-old daughter and lived in Hayward, California.[15] Grant had worked as a butcher at Farmer Joe&#039;s Marketplace in Oakland&#039;s Dimond District after previous jobs at several Kentucky Fried Chicken outlets.[9] He attended both San Lorenzo and Mount Eden High Schools in Hayward until the 10th grade and eventually earned his GED.[9]
 
Grant had a prior police record but the attorney for Grant&#039;s family, John Burris, argued it was &quot;irrelevant to the BART shooting because Mehserle wasn&#039;t aware of it when he opened fire&quot;.[9][27] Previously Grant had been convicted of drug dealing and, in 2007, was sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for fleeing &quot;from a traffic stop while armed with a loaded pistol&quot;.[9] At that incident, near his Hayward home, San Leandro police shot him with a Taser to subdue him after he threw the pistol into the air and ran.[9] Grant was released from prison September 23, and according to Burris, had been doing well in recent months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At approximately 2:00 AM PST, BART Police responded to reports that about twenty people were involved in the equivalent of a &#8220;barroom fight&#8221; on an incoming train from the West Oakland BART Station and the participants were &#8220;hammered and stoned.&#8221;&#8230;drunk &amp; high.</p>
<p>Officers removed Grant and several other men suspected of fighting from the train and detained them on the platform. Grant and another man ran back onto the train after being detained, but Grant voluntarily returned to the platform when officer Tony Pirone grabbed the other man and dragged him from the train</p>
<p>Pirone confirmed with the train operator that the men detained were involved in the fight.</p>
<p>BART police had been on edge before the shooting because two guns had been recovered in separate incidents along the rail line over the previous hour.[16] Immediately before he arrived at Fruitvale, Mehserle was involved in an incident at the West Oakland station where a teenage boy with a semi-automatic pistol had fled from police and jumped off the station platform, breaking several bones.[2]</p>
<p>Officer Pirone said he told Grant &#8220;Stop resisting, you&#8217;re under arrest, put your hands behind your back.&#8221; At that time Pirone said he heard Mehserle say, &#8220;Put your hands behind your back, stop resisting, stop resisting, put your hands behind your back.&#8221; Then Mehserle said, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to taze him, I&#8217;m going to taze him. I can&#8217;t get his arms. He won&#8217;t give me his arms. His hands are going for his waistband.&#8221; Then Mehserle popped up and said, &#8220;Tony, Tony, get away, back up, back up.&#8221; </p>
<p>Pirone did not know if Grant was armed. Mehserle had fear in his voice. Pirone had never heard Mehserle&#8217;s voice with that tone. Mehserle sounded afraid.[8] </p>
<p>The motion also states that the man sitting next to Grant also told police he heard Mehserle say &#8220;I&#8217;m going to taze him.&#8221;[8]</p>
<p>Mehserle then stood up, unholstered his gun, a SIG P226,[3] and fired a shot into Grant&#8217;s back.[21] Immediately after the shooting, Mehserle appeared surprised and raised his hands to his face; according to Michael Rains, Mehserle&#8217;s criminal defense attorney, several eyewitnesses described Mehserle as looking stunned.[3][22]</p>
<p>There is disagreement of when, or if, Grant was handcuffed before he was shot. The day after the shooting, BART spokesman Jim Allison said that Grant was not restrained when he was shot.[4] Court filings by the district attorney&#8217;s office say that Grant&#8217;s hands were behind his back and that he was &#8220;restrained and unarmed&#8221; but do not say he was handcuffed</p>
<p>Oscar Juliuss Grant III, (February 27, 1986[26] &#8211; January 1, 2009), was the father of a 4-year-old daughter and lived in Hayward, California.[15] Grant had worked as a butcher at Farmer Joe&#8217;s Marketplace in Oakland&#8217;s Dimond District after previous jobs at several Kentucky Fried Chicken outlets.[9] He attended both San Lorenzo and Mount Eden High Schools in Hayward until the 10th grade and eventually earned his GED.[9]</p>
<p>Grant had a prior police record but the attorney for Grant&#8217;s family, John Burris, argued it was &#8220;irrelevant to the BART shooting because Mehserle wasn&#8217;t aware of it when he opened fire&#8221;.[9][27] Previously Grant had been convicted of drug dealing and, in 2007, was sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for fleeing &#8220;from a traffic stop while armed with a loaded pistol&#8221;.[9] At that incident, near his Hayward home, San Leandro police shot him with a Taser to subdue him after he threw the pistol into the air and ran.[9] Grant was released from prison September 23, and according to Burris, had been doing well in recent months.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
		<link>http://sfbayview.com/2009/oscar-grant-execution-by-bart-cop-clear-close-view-from-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully that cop gets the death penalty. Filthy pig should be shot in the back like he deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully that cop gets the death penalty. Filthy pig should be shot in the back like he deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Memory C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memory C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always sad to see a man get shot on camera but a black man get shot???  Its even worse.  If the man wasn&#039;t struggling, why put yourself out there like that?  I hope that white cop stays in protective custody, because if he doesn&#039;t, he&#039;s a dead man!!!!  I will pray for his well being and his family.  Tragic..  So tragic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always sad to see a man get shot on camera but a black man get shot???  Its even worse.  If the man wasn&#8217;t struggling, why put yourself out there like that?  I hope that white cop stays in protective custody, because if he doesn&#8217;t, he&#8217;s a dead man!!!!  I will pray for his well being and his family.  Tragic..  So tragic</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that very crucial observation, Carrie. What you&#039;re noting along with what we heard from Oscar&#039;s cousin, Don Wiggins, that Oscar was left to bleed to death for 30-40 minutes while the cops confiscated everyone&#039;s cell phones, adds up to a strong case against ALL the officers, it seems to me.

Mary Ratcliff, editor
SF Bay View</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that very crucial observation, Carrie. What you&#8217;re noting along with what we heard from Oscar&#8217;s cousin, Don Wiggins, that Oscar was left to bleed to death for 30-40 minutes while the cops confiscated everyone&#8217;s cell phones, adds up to a strong case against ALL the officers, it seems to me.</p>
<p>Mary Ratcliff, editor<br />
SF Bay View</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard for me to believe, but if you actually believe that the police officer is innocent, then why the heck didn&#039;t he try to save his life after he &quot;accidentally&quot; shot him? In the video, the cop does look surprised, but then nobody takes any action.  In fact, the cops only seem to continue trying to detain everybody. Right after the gunshot, one of the cops should have been on their phones/radios calling in an ambulance.  If Mr. Mehersle would have at least done that, people might have a tad more belief that it was a mistake, AND more importantly, Oscar might still be alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to believe, but if you actually believe that the police officer is innocent, then why the heck didn&#8217;t he try to save his life after he &#8220;accidentally&#8221; shot him? In the video, the cop does look surprised, but then nobody takes any action.  In fact, the cops only seem to continue trying to detain everybody. Right after the gunshot, one of the cops should have been on their phones/radios calling in an ambulance.  If Mr. Mehersle would have at least done that, people might have a tad more belief that it was a mistake, AND more importantly, Oscar might still be alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shooting is horrible. What compounds this tragedy is the apparent cover-up by law enforcement that is going on now. 

The man was murdered in cold blood. It appears the officers involved were trying to goad the man into a conflict and when they failed to do that, they shot him.

Very troubling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shooting is horrible. What compounds this tragedy is the apparent cover-up by law enforcement that is going on now. </p>
<p>The man was murdered in cold blood. It appears the officers involved were trying to goad the man into a conflict and when they failed to do that, they shot him.</p>
<p>Very troubling.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia in tennessee</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynthia in tennessee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is sooooooo sad..the timing was so wrong.just when I thought we were all going to get along!We need to stay on our knees! WE will get threw this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is sooooooo sad..the timing was so wrong.just when I thought we were all going to get along!We need to stay on our knees! WE will get threw this!</p>
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		<title>By: moriah</title>
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		<dc:creator>moriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a shame that this happened.. the police  has no right to grab there gun especially if its not an gun situation.but as we all know that police are always ready to grab or harrass a young black man. young black men have not been able to stand at a buss stop nor able to walk down the street with out the police bothering them. the police always and will suspect on young balck males. that police officer was wrong and he needs to be in jail i dont care if he federal or not thats just a word but he is human just as oscar grant was and he needs to be in jail.. the police officer knew what he was doin when he shot him he knew were his gun sits and he knew the difference from a gun and a taser.. that police should be in jail and not on pay leave..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a shame that this happened.. the police  has no right to grab there gun especially if its not an gun situation.but as we all know that police are always ready to grab or harrass a young black man. young black men have not been able to stand at a buss stop nor able to walk down the street with out the police bothering them. the police always and will suspect on young balck males. that police officer was wrong and he needs to be in jail i dont care if he federal or not thats just a word but he is human just as oscar grant was and he needs to be in jail.. the police officer knew what he was doin when he shot him he knew were his gun sits and he knew the difference from a gun and a taser.. that police should be in jail and not on pay leave..</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goes too show you that as a black man, you have no rights. You will be racially profiled by the police hunt down, and shot like wild animals without any justice for the law that they have sworn to uphold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goes too show you that as a black man, you have no rights. You will be racially profiled by the police hunt down, and shot like wild animals without any justice for the law that they have sworn to uphold.</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he thought he was going to taze grant, NOT shoot him.

just watch the cops reaction at 1:32.

he’s shocked. he looks at the other cops and raises his hands to his head,,just like the lawyer did after watching the shooting, and saying “why did take his gun out?”.

2:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy-WSZMklc&amp;feature=related

there were witnesses that heard a cop say “oh my god”. i bet it was the cop that did the shooting.

tragic accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he thought he was going to taze grant, NOT shoot him.</p>
<p>just watch the cops reaction at 1:32.</p>
<p>he’s shocked. he looks at the other cops and raises his hands to his head,,just like the lawyer did after watching the shooting, and saying “why did take his gun out?”.</p>
<p>2:32<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy-WSZMklc&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy-WSZMklc&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>there were witnesses that heard a cop say “oh my god”. i bet it was the cop that did the shooting.</p>
<p>tragic accident.</p>
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