Comments on: Blacks working in Black communities: a revolutionary idea! http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/ Black liberation news and views Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:57:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: marvin http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-8681 marvin Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:54:31 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-8681 why do oriental and portaricans target black communities too make a living and not their own communities. why do oriental and portaricans target black communities too make a living and not their own communities.

]]> By: Don Brough http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-5917 Don Brough Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:17:01 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-5917 This is the most obsured, one-sided, essay I have ever read (I dare not use the word journalism). This is about dividing-going back in time, as opposed to moving forward. Look at your streets, your neighborhoods, your schools in your community. Who are the vandals? Why can't these kids read and write to the appropriate gread level, why does no one want to step into your community. Look in the mirror. This is the most obsured, one-sided, essay I have ever read (I dare not use the word journalism). This is about dividing-going back in time, as opposed to moving forward. Look at your streets, your neighborhoods, your schools in your community. Who are the vandals? Why can’t these kids read and write to the appropriate gread level, why does no one want to step into your community.

Look in the mirror.

]]> By: S Murph http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-5482 S Murph Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:55:45 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-5482 Contract On Us Thanks Mr. Debro for stating the obvious. It is unfortunate that the truth has to be framed as you framed it but sometimes you have to tell the in your face raw like sushi butt naked TRUTH. The reality is that in this nation the primary objective is to keep Black folks in a constant state of dependency. From the time they bought the first of our ancestors to these shores to this present time the goal has always been keep us dirt poor dirt healthy and dirt ignorant. That way we become prime candidates for the prison industrial complex and if we keep our noses half way clean we are prime candidates for the military industrial complex (boy what a choice). It is also no big secret that the bidding process for construction projects or anything else where government money (be it local county state or federal) is involved is a rigged game. All you have to do is look at the bidding process or lack of any bidding process for the contracts that were given as before during and after conflict in Iraq. This is a perfect example of what goes on here only it happened in another country. Even before the war started the contract vultures were licking their collective chops. They bellied up to the government trough and got No Bid Cost Plus (imagine that) contract to rebuild Iraq, supply and provide services for the military state dept and Iraqis or so we thought. They got the cash and then got ghost. Projects that were bought and paid for with US government money (IE US taxpayer money) were NEVER built/provided or were started and NEVER finished or so badly botched that they could not be finished. The money disappeared and the contractors keep coming back for more contracts and mo money (Great Job Brownie). The level of corruption collusion fraud and out right theft is staggering. And oh by the way it is still rolling like that in Iraq right now today!!! Is it just a coincidence that Haliburton Blackwater KBR and other shady contractors that had inside connection to folks in the white house at that time got the lion share of the No Bid Cost Plus contracts??? I just wonder???? Just like Mr. Debro states it is a small circle of family relatives and friends or a well connected politician/bureaucrat that makes the difference. Here are some examples http://catherinemacivor.com/2009/02/15/graft-and-corruption-in-iraq-not-limited-to-halliburton/ http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/cats/iraq/iraq_corruption/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10074995/ What would make anyone think that what has and is still going on in Iraq is NOT going on right here in the USA??? This is where it started at. Remember the Enron bid/price/contract rigging that created the energy crisis that started the financial disaster train that Cali in now riding (You remember)!!! Just like in Iraq the bidding process for projects construction or other wise in our neighborhoods are a closed loop ole boy network affair. Projects no matter what kind in our community NEVER employ any significant number of the people who live in said community. Half the time we never even know about them. The contractors will go out of town out of state and out of country to get workers before hiring the people who live in the place where the project is going on in any significant numbers. In spite of organizations like (Bay Area Black Builders) that represents qualified skilled and experienced people who could work in these projects, which blows up the standard lie that there are no qualified people in the black community to fill the jobs. Black folks have always been herded and corralled into the places we live in so that we can be effectively isolated and cut off and cut out of the rest of the functioning community. In these isolated and cut off places people can be easily abused deprived and exploited without anyone paying any attention much less caring. The Black community gets pimped like two dollar tricks. Everyone can come into the Black community and do just about what ever the hell they want and we are helpless to stop them. Arabs East Indians Europeans Asians (Not hating on anybody) can come into our communities open stores shops and start businesses at will. We dutifully patronize them and they take the money and leave. Try doing that in their neighborhoods (I dee double dare ya!!!). I know it takes a lot of courage for Mr. Debro to say what he said out loud. Nobody wants to say incendiary stuff or incite hostilities but sometimes you have to call bullsh*t what it really is BULLSH*T!!! Black folks have always accepted the go along to get along bust out instead of calling out politicians/bureaucrats and other civic and social leaders/spokes persons for the half truths and out right lies that they tell. This is one really really good example of some one speaking truth to power. Peace S Murph Contract On Us

Thanks Mr. Debro for stating the obvious. It is unfortunate that the truth has to be framed as you framed it but sometimes you have to tell the in your face raw like sushi butt naked TRUTH. The reality is that in this nation the primary objective is to keep Black folks in a constant state of dependency. From the time they bought the first of our ancestors to these shores to this present time the goal has always been keep us dirt poor dirt healthy and dirt ignorant. That way we become prime candidates for the prison industrial complex and if we keep our noses half way clean we are prime candidates for the military industrial complex (boy what a choice).

It is also no big secret that the bidding process for construction projects or anything else where government money (be it local county state or federal) is involved is a rigged game. All you have to do is look at the bidding process or lack of any bidding process for the contracts that were given as before during and after conflict in Iraq. This is a perfect example of what goes on here only it happened in another country.

Even before the war started the contract vultures were licking their collective chops. They bellied up to the government trough and got No Bid Cost Plus (imagine that) contract to rebuild Iraq, supply and provide services for the military state dept and Iraqis or so we thought. They got the cash and then got ghost. Projects that were bought and paid for with US government money (IE US taxpayer money) were NEVER built/provided or were started and NEVER finished or so badly botched that they could not be finished. The money disappeared and the contractors keep coming back for more contracts and mo money (Great Job Brownie). The level of corruption collusion fraud and out right theft is staggering. And oh by the way it is still rolling like that in Iraq right now today!!! Is it just a coincidence that Haliburton Blackwater KBR and other shady contractors that had inside connection to folks in the white house at that time got the lion share of the No Bid Cost Plus contracts??? I just wonder???? Just like Mr. Debro states it is a small circle of family relatives and friends or a well connected politician/bureaucrat that makes the difference.

Here are some examples

http://catherinemacivor.com/2009/02/15/graft-and-corruption-in-iraq-not-limited-to-halliburton/

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/cats/iraq/iraq_corruption/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10074995/

What would make anyone think that what has and is still going on in Iraq is NOT going on right here in the USA??? This is where it started at. Remember the Enron bid/price/contract rigging that created the energy crisis that started the financial disaster train that Cali in now riding (You remember)!!!

Just like in Iraq the bidding process for projects construction or other wise in our neighborhoods are a closed loop ole boy network affair. Projects no matter what kind in our community NEVER employ any significant number of the people who live in said community. Half the time we never even know about them. The contractors will go out of town out of state and out of country to get workers before hiring the people who live in the place where the project is going on in any significant numbers. In spite of organizations like (Bay Area Black Builders) that represents qualified skilled and experienced people who could work in these projects, which blows up the standard lie that there are no qualified people in the black community to fill the jobs.

Black folks have always been herded and corralled into the places we live in so that we can be effectively isolated and cut off and cut out of the rest of the functioning community. In these isolated and cut off places people can be easily abused deprived and exploited without anyone paying any attention much less caring. The Black community gets pimped like two dollar tricks. Everyone can come into the Black community and do just about what ever the hell they want and we are helpless to stop them. Arabs East Indians Europeans Asians (Not hating on anybody) can come into our communities open stores shops and start businesses at will. We dutifully patronize them and they take the money and leave. Try doing that in their neighborhoods (I dee double dare ya!!!).

I know it takes a lot of courage for Mr. Debro to say what he said out loud. Nobody wants to say incendiary stuff or incite hostilities but sometimes you have to call bullsh*t what it really is BULLSH*T!!! Black folks have always accepted the go along to get along bust out instead of calling out politicians/bureaucrats and other civic and social leaders/spokes persons for the half truths and out right lies that they tell. This is one really really good example of some one speaking truth to power.

Peace

S Murph

]]> By: John Mulligan http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-5463 John Mulligan Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:30:14 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-5463 Let me see if I understand you. Are you suggesting that black people shoot work crews who are using federal assistance money to improve black communities? Are you saying that black people in black communities should assess the level of color of the work crews independently and then, based on whatever conclusion, kill those who don't meet standards? Have you lost your damn mind? Public money is pouring in to aid communities like Hunter's Point in the form of welfare, free medical care and new housing. Public money is provided through a bidding process. Every bidding process is published for the public. Failure to abide by the bidding process is grounds for a lawsuit. Please list in your article which black firms submitted bids for these projects but were turned down. Oh, maybe you just mean workers. Please list which black workers were denied employment on the basis of race. Last time I checked, more than half of the workers at any construction site are Latino. Do you have a problem with Latino workers? I know of several black men and women who work, one of them is the President. Wonder why so few people in Hunter's Point work? Check out how the kids behave in class or how the parents raise their children. Ever hear the phrase, "don't you tell me how to raise my child?" Well, there you go. Let me see if I understand you. Are you suggesting that black people shoot work crews who are using federal assistance money to improve black communities? Are you saying that black people in black communities should assess the level of color of the work crews independently and then, based on whatever conclusion, kill those who don’t meet standards? Have you lost your damn mind? Public money is pouring in to aid communities like Hunter’s Point in the form of welfare, free medical care and new housing. Public money is provided through a bidding process. Every bidding process is published for the public. Failure to abide by the bidding process is grounds for a lawsuit. Please list in your article which black firms submitted bids for these projects but were turned down. Oh, maybe you just mean workers. Please list which black workers were denied employment on the basis of race. Last time I checked, more than half of the workers at any construction site are Latino. Do you have a problem with Latino workers? I know of several black men and women who work, one of them is the President. Wonder why so few people in Hunter’s Point work? Check out how the kids behave in class or how the parents raise their children. Ever hear the phrase, “don’t you tell me how to raise my child?” Well, there you go.

]]> By: murban http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-5454 murban Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:48:39 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-5454 So you want only blacks working on projects in black neighborhoods? How about only black teachers to get through to black students? Or only black police to patrol black neighborhoods? How about only black representatives to represent black citizens? This seem like a fair and reasonable solution to you? They did this once before in South Africa. Called Aparthied. Seperate but equal was the law of the land until 1954 but you did not like it then. You want to go back to that because you can't learn to live up to society's standards of behavior and accountability? Keep listening to your "Black Leaders" who want to keep you ignorant and powerless because it lines their pockets and gets them elected. It's not Whitey doing that. So you want only blacks working on projects in black neighborhoods? How about only black teachers to get through to black students? Or only black police to patrol black neighborhoods? How about only black representatives to represent black citizens? This seem like a fair and reasonable solution to you? They did this once before in South Africa. Called Aparthied. Seperate but equal was the law of the land until 1954 but you did not like it then. You want to go back to that because you can’t learn to live up to society’s standards of behavior and accountability? Keep listening to your “Black Leaders” who want to keep you ignorant and powerless because it lines their pockets and gets them elected. It’s not Whitey doing that.

]]> By: Karp http://sfbayview.com/2010/blacks-working-in-black-communities-a-revolutionary-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-5437 Karp Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:28:14 +0000 http://www.sfbayview.com/?p=10330#comment-5437 Thank you for your bravery. There is no articulation from the other side. They want threats and violence so there are reasons to violently retaliate otherwise they cannot respond rationally because the goal is to protect Lennar and other SF inside pocket cronies. Support! Thank you for your bravery. There is no articulation from the other side. They want threats and violence so there are reasons to violently retaliate otherwise they cannot respond rationally because the goal is to protect Lennar and other SF inside pocket cronies. Support!

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