Comments on: Push Kagame harder, activists tell Obama

By: Saad

Saad — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:44:44 +0000

So does anyone believe Kagame is as clean cotton in the accumulated matter of the genocide and after? or is there a need to reexamine what really happened? How do you jon suggest we bring an end to this debate or is there no crisis at all?

By: Saad Kochani

Saad Kochani — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:39:04 +0000

it is apparently very difficult to be rwandan, a country where there appears to be no objective truth. truth depends on political, tribal and personal logic and motive of the speaker or writer.
even in israel, the master of propaganda current generations are no longer held hostage to the hostage mentality which rightwing extremists fan to justify extermination of palestinians and reject reconciliation.
kagame has succeeded this far to hold the world hostage to the 1994 genocide in his country partly because the wider world was yet to know the other side of this tin-pot despot.
The West has decided to spit this tarbaby out of moral turpitude especially following the Laurent Nkunda led carnage in the Eastern DRC, a revulsion spurred by unprecedented media coverage and publicity but also on realising that even if he is a saint Kagame will one day die or grow old and expendible to Western/bid power interest.
in my estimation when it comes to the historical binary logic of bloodlusts between the Hutu and Tutsi there are no natural genocidaires and natural victims.

By: Wake up

Wake up — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:46:19 +0000

Paul, are you June? How do you know June is in Rwanda? To get past the animosity, Kagame needs to stop using genocide as a political tool. Other than that, Rwandans in Rwanda do know the reality and abide by the rules of moving forward. Of course if they show anything different they will be beheaded like Rwisereka Kagwa of the Green Party. No one needs to be in Rwanda to know that Kagame has, is, and plans to kill people in masses. He even admited it in his own speech that he shot refugees.

By: gati Kabisi

gati Kabisi — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:21:27 +0000

Guys The problem of rwanda is not ethinic it is bad governance if we rwandans wants peace among us the is only one solution even if we are asking obama not support kagame that's not solve our problem the solution is one our King Kigeri V .

Crying abrod exbitions is wasting time the problem is rwandans problem if we do not show want we want no one is going to help solution our Majesty the king Kigeri V

By: Clues

Clues — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:58:09 +0000

@Jon: How serious can you be to think "you are moving ahead full speed"? How can you move full speed with 6.5 millions repressed people in a country o about 8.2 millions? It's like saying your high school junior basketball team will take on the lakers!

Kagame's being increminated of Genocide. Are you gonna have that kind of rhetoric again? He was considered the genocide hero. Maybe he's actually the one who initialized it in the first place as reported by others that he gave orderes not to intervene when he could coz he wanted it to be consumed first?
Open your eyes..

By: Umutoni

Umutoni — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:44:59 +0000

Tutsis' lives were lost so did the hutus'….Rwandan lives were lost at large. We lost mothers, fathers, daughters,son, uncles, cousins,friends etc…those who survived it were affected to one way or another. We owe it to our lost loved ones and ourselves( those who were there and and lived through the nightmare) to set things right and help each other move foward and make Rwanda proud of her children.

By: Umutoni

Umutoni — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:44:38 +0000

Where are all those people now except for Bizimungu? They are all dead killed by RPF. Hutu civillians were targeted and killed. They killed them using hoes(agafuni) and some were tied with hands behind their backs cut open in the chest and stomach and they were left for eagles to eat.This happened alot at Byumba. The hutu civillians who took refuge at Byumba during 1994;we watched their famillies dissappear one by one. Those who took refuge at DRC were first greeted with poison. They met the local tutsis who sold them poisoned foods and they blamed the mass death to cholera. The super cleansing came in 1997 when RPF invaded the refugee camps. All these people who died a senseless death at the hands of RPF were Rwandans too and deserve true justice. No life/blood is more valuable than the other whether you are a tustsi or a hutu, besides we dont choose who we are born! our peaceful future as Rwandans really depends on what we learn from the past and correct the mistakes our elders did.

By: messenger

messenger — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:26:24 +0000

Hahahaa,I can't help laughing on your comment!

By: jon

jon — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:11:45 +0000

another BS report,just like HRW & French judge…we know the really killers and its not UN or some western wannabe to tell us….yeh keep waiting for Kigali fall because with your evil mind thats what u been waiting for since 1994,we are charging ahead and we are not looking back,and dont fool yourself,if you commited any genocide in Rwanda we will hunt you down until the end of the days…that BS report is for idiots people like you and has nothing to do with us.

By: Rucagu

Rucagu — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:54:13 +0000

When you say we lost on both sides it means double genocide.You are wrong. remember that RPF chairman was a hutu(Kanyarengwe), a hutu chairman will plan a massacre against his own ethnic? i think that they are victims of war but victims were not target. During 1995 some RPA soldiers were judged and executed because of their crimes against civilians.How Kanyarengwe, Lizinde, Bizimungu sendashonga,Biseruka, all hutu should plan hutu massacre?

By: messenger

messenger — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:54:29 +0000

That some bullshit!What r u going to do now dat UN is incriminating RPF for mass murder and GENOCIDE in Congo?I'm seating here and watchin' y'all!I can't miss your fall!

By: Umutoni

Umutoni — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:01:15 +0000

Its unbelievable that after 16 years, some Rwandans have not learned a thing. We cannot move forward unless we make peace with the past. Lying to each other will not get us anywhere…we are just wasting time. It is a documented fact that RPF killed alot of civillians in the nothern part of Rwanda when the war first started in 1990 and they kept killing people especially Hutus after 1994….let not forget the mass killings that took place in 1997 in the DRC camps. Hutu were lkilled too and in large numbers. Saying that the hutus were killed is not denying genocide! Until justiced is done for all Rwandans,until Rwandans sit around the table and recognize each others pain without minimizing it and help each other to heal and move foward. Rwanda will never have true peace. We owe it to our loved ones we lost on both sides(tutsis and hutu) to set the matters straight. Those of us who were in Rwanda we know the truth, we know what happened,we have seen happen. Lies will not get Rwanda and Rwandan anywhere…we are just fooling ourselve

By: Rwandan

Rwandan — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:07:59 +0000

as you keep out Rwanda and oppose the current pace of development, becoming better every day the country is at a take off stage of a runway to development….Verbal diahoreas of crying failures at the mercy of the ignorant believe me you…. Rwanda is on the move and together we stand the weaker you are fall out..

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:19:51 +0000

"Messanger": Juna Sina is the voice of reason and common sense in this discussion.

What she is saying (if you don't get that) is that there is so much hatred because of past traumas. But time has come to overcome it, to focus on progress for Rwanda. Much of the current criticism stems from past hatred and not so much from purely rational facts. Non-constructive criticism is the last Rwanda needs. It is not surprising that expat Rwandans are in the forefront of this emotionalized debate. They are dettached from the reality on the ground. When you are in Rwanda, your main interest is a better life AT LAST. And this is becoming REALITY in front of the eyes of Rwandans. They are fed up with past animosity.
As a non-Rwandan, i tend to give higher credibility to Rwandans IN Rwanda, like June (and other friends I know personally).

By: Wake up call!!!

Wake up call!!! — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:31:31 +0000

http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/reactions/2010/08/2…

if ya dont speak french, use google translater!!!!

By: jon

jon — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:31:21 +0000

Obama congratulation? who cares…Rwanda is for rwandese idiot,we are going to build Rwanda and will be middle class when people like still wondering in the Congolese jungle with your evil mind and there will be no more refugees ever,like your genocidal govts who killed and discriminate people we dont do that and will never do,your ill wishful thinking is just evil

By: messenger

messenger — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:33:41 +0000

As much as you have the freedom of speech so does Ann.She can talk about anything no matter how it boders you or anyone else.Sorry but Hate it or Love it!

By: Wake up

Wake up — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:27 +0000

@Jon,

You may be right when you say that "Obama will never listen to this genocide deniers and murderers who commited genocide".

Maybe that is why Obama listened to these activists and refused to congratulate Kagame. Kagame has committed genocide and now Obama won't listen to him like you said. Kagame also told genocide survivors like Gatebuke that they shouldn't complain because no one shot at them.

Your comments are funny though. Is that the best you can come up with by calling people names??? Really? God help Rwanda!! The accusation of "genocide denial" is being used against anyone not expressing Kagame's propaganda and it's getting more and more ridiculous by the day. Genocide survivors like Mushayidi are in jail for "genocide denial". People like Kagame who have their families intact continue to play with the lives of genocide survivors for their own selfish ends.

Warning to this guy Gatebuke, Kagame is a cold blooded killer. He and his partners and supporters may take your life. There is a long list of people who have "mysteriously" died after opposing Kagame publically.

By: Bosco

Bosco — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:36:55 +0000

what's make you all you think that FDLR did those rapes? there are so many rebel groups in congo and who knows who did it. and I want remind you suckers that not all hutus are genocidaire just like not all Tutsi are criminals like you so-colled heroes like kagame, kayumba, karegeya and more. Hutus did not go to those refugee camps and open fire on them. U.N was om Kibeho when they went to kill those citizens. People from Ruhengeli and Gisenyi were not killed by Interahamwe. why can't you just shut the freak up and suck Kagame ass.
one more thing, genocide survivors are not only Tutsi we all Rwandans are survivors.
If Rwanda is doing better economically (thanks to Congo minerals) why are they still living under 1.00 dollar per day? beware suckers your days are numbered and when we come don't just run away because we are tired of this retation, we won't kill you but we will put you in jail for your crime.

By: messenger

messenger — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:15:12 +0000

An article from TNT rite? , no surprise for me dat u read dose kind of newspapers!!