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		<title>By: Malaika H Kambon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malaika H Kambon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on to Tim ... and oh by the way, so-called &#039;superior European&#039; - London is currently burning to the ground because some of your so called superior cops just shot an unarmed Black Man, 29 year old Mark Duggan and beat up a 16 year old child... 
 
The pigs were NOT under attack when Duggan was shot and killed. They were also NOT under attack when a 16 year old female child was beaten.... these are confirmed reports... 
 
so hey, superior, what&#039;s your spin on this? And how is this different from Kenneth Harding, a 19 yr old Black Man being shot numerous times by pigs and being allowed to bleed to death in a pool of his own blood in broad daylight after being chased down for not having a $2 train fare? 
 
superior, hey mr/ms euro- superio - are u listening? huh? 
 
can u hear me now???? 
 
which shallow foundations are now burning to the ground? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on to Tim &#8230; and oh by the way, so-called &#039;superior European&#039; &#8211; London is currently burning to the ground because some of your so called superior cops just shot an unarmed Black Man, 29 year old Mark Duggan and beat up a 16 year old child&#8230; </p>
<p>The pigs were NOT under attack when Duggan was shot and killed. They were also NOT under attack when a 16 year old female child was beaten&#8230;. these are confirmed reports&#8230; </p>
<p>so hey, superior, what&#039;s your spin on this? And how is this different from Kenneth Harding, a 19 yr old Black Man being shot numerous times by pigs and being allowed to bleed to death in a pool of his own blood in broad daylight after being chased down for not having a $2 train fare? </p>
<p>superior, hey mr/ms euro- superio &#8211; are u listening? huh? </p>
<p>can u hear me now???? </p>
<p>which shallow foundations are now burning to the ground? </p>
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		<title>By: Geral Sosbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geral Sosbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;None are more hopelessly enslaved than  
those who falsely believe they are free.&quot;  
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 
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<p>  <a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/fbicia-police-have-a-simple?xg_source=activity" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/fbicia-po" rel="nofollow">http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/fbicia-po</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>   <a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/we-are-the-mind-warriors" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/we-are-" rel="nofollow">http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/we-are-</a>&#8230;<br />
  <a href="http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/governmentmustcr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/governmentmustcr.html</a> </p>
<p>   <a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-meaning-of-t-the-fbi" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-mea" rel="nofollow">http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-mea</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>&quot;None are more hopelessly enslaved than<br />
those who falsely believe they are free.&quot;<br />
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe </p>
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		<title>By: Latino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robocop33 is the profile name of a policelink.com member that makes the following comments in reference to an article on the website entitled  
&#039;White Ex-transit Officer&#8217;s Sentence Sparks Protest&#039;  
It is a story about the people in Oakland who are protesting the ridiculous 2 year sentence Mehersle recieved for killing Oscar Grant.  
 
&quot;These bastards, (sorry PL but that is what they are), would not be satisfied unless he was given the death penalty! This Officer should never have been charged, much less tried and convicted. It was a tragic accident that never would have happened if the POST that was shot had simply submitted to arrest, or better yet, had not been involved in the illegal activity in the first place. This has already destroyed the life of a fine young man who put his a$ on the line to help the very people that convicted him. FOR SHAME! I say declare Marshal Law and stop this immediately!&#8221;  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/14742...&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/14742...&lt;/a&gt;.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robocop33 is the profile name of a policelink.com member that makes the following comments in reference to an article on the website entitled<br />
&#039;White Ex-transit Officer&rsquo;s Sentence Sparks Protest&#039;<br />
It is a story about the people in Oakland who are protesting the ridiculous 2 year sentence Mehersle recieved for killing Oscar Grant.  </p>
<p>&quot;These bastards, (sorry PL but that is what they are), would not be satisfied unless he was given the death penalty! This Officer should never have been charged, much less tried and convicted. It was a tragic accident that never would have happened if the POST that was shot had simply submitted to arrest, or better yet, had not been involved in the illegal activity in the first place. This has already destroyed the life of a fine young man who put his a$ on the line to help the very people that convicted him. FOR SHAME! I say declare Marshal Law and stop this immediately!&rdquo;<br />
  <a href="http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/14742..." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/14742" rel="nofollow">http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/14742</a>&#8230;.  </p>
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		<title>By: Marlon Crump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlon Crump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank, that is why my comrades of POOR Magazine/PNN have adopted our own community model, &quot;No Po-lice Calls........Ever!&quot;. I wrote an article in reference to that: &lt;a href=&quot;http://poormagazine.org/node/3386&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://poormagazine.org/node/3386&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Regardless of how people and media have demonized Oscar Grant, he did NOT deserve to die, especially in such a cruel, depraved, and heinous manner. When police responded to a robbery call five years ago, guess who&#039;s home they broke into? ME! It didn&#039;t matter that I was and still is a peaceful person with no criminal or even an arrest history. My ethnicity was the only thing that mattered. 
 
I always wonder what would have happened as I lay spreadeagled on my bed (like Oscar Grant) if one of the cops got overzealous (JUST LIKE MEHSERLE!) how I would&#039;ve gotten written up by the department and the media, hmmmm? 
 
Yes, we are all Oscar Grant! 
 
Marlon Crump 
POOR Magazine/PNN.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, that is why my comrades of POOR Magazine/PNN have adopted our own community model, &quot;No Po-lice Calls&#8230;&#8230;..Ever!&quot;. I wrote an article in reference to that: <a href="http://poormagazine.org/node/3386" rel="nofollow">http://poormagazine.org/node/3386</a> </p>
<p>Regardless of how people and media have demonized Oscar Grant, he did NOT deserve to die, especially in such a cruel, depraved, and heinous manner. When police responded to a robbery call five years ago, guess who&#039;s home they broke into? ME! It didn&#039;t matter that I was and still is a peaceful person with no criminal or even an arrest history. My ethnicity was the only thing that mattered. </p>
<p>I always wonder what would have happened as I lay spreadeagled on my bed (like Oscar Grant) if one of the cops got overzealous (JUST LIKE MEHSERLE!) how I would&#039;ve gotten written up by the department and the media, hmmmm? </p>
<p>Yes, we are all Oscar Grant! </p>
<p>Marlon Crump<br />
POOR Magazine/PNN.  </p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See SF chronicle, but 62 people were murdered in Oakland this past year.  3 more murders just this last weekend.  No rallies or marching for these people.  I say, put your energy into a bigger cause.  This rally was just an excuse to cause mayhem.  Yes Meserhle should pay and he is a fool, but why march in the name of Oscar Grant?  He was a criminal breaking the law and resisting arrest causing BART police to be called out there in the first place.  I wouldn&#039;t march for him.  I would march for the truly innocent who die all the time on the Oakland streets. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See SF chronicle, but 62 people were murdered in Oakland this past year.  3 more murders just this last weekend.  No rallies or marching for these people.  I say, put your energy into a bigger cause.  This rally was just an excuse to cause mayhem.  Yes Meserhle should pay and he is a fool, but why march in the name of Oscar Grant?  He was a criminal breaking the law and resisting arrest causing BART police to be called out there in the first place.  I wouldn&#039;t march for him.  I would march for the truly innocent who die all the time on the Oakland streets. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann_Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann_Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The East Bay Bike Coalition&#039;s candidate, Robert Rayburn, who was favored by progressives, won in District #4 in Alameda.  A statement on his Facebook page says simply, &quot;I urge all people of our community to make their voices heard in a peaceful and constructive manner in response to the Johannes Mehserle sentencing. On my part, as the newest BART Board Member, I will work to ensure that BART Police are properly trained and deployed to protect BART riders.&quot;    
 
But, he made BART&#039;s violation of civil rights an issue in the campaign: 
 
&quot;BART had violated the civil rights of minority bus riders in the East Bay when it decided to replace a $3 shuttle to Oakland airport with an elevated guideway that will cost commuters at least $6 each way &#8212; and didn&#8217;t conduct a study of the impact on minority riders.&quot;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://goo.gl/YWdWG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://goo.gl/YWdWG&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The East Bay Bike Coalition&#039;s candidate, Robert Rayburn, who was favored by progressives, won in District #4 in Alameda.  A statement on his Facebook page says simply, &quot;I urge all people of our community to make their voices heard in a peaceful and constructive manner in response to the Johannes Mehserle sentencing. On my part, as the newest BART Board Member, I will work to ensure that BART Police are properly trained and deployed to protect BART riders.&quot;    </p>
<p>But, he made BART&#039;s violation of civil rights an issue in the campaign: </p>
<p>&quot;BART had violated the civil rights of minority bus riders in the East Bay when it decided to replace a $3 shuttle to Oakland airport with an elevated guideway that will cost commuters at least $6 each way &mdash; and didn&rsquo;t conduct a study of the impact on minority riders.&quot;   <a href="http://goo.gl/YWdWG" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/YWdWG</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why no protests for all the blacks that get killed on a regular basis in Oakland?  I guess when it is not white versus black, it doesn&#039;t matter at all.  Seems strange.  And why blame everyone else?  Doesn&#039;t Oscar Grant, who has had run-ins with the law, and was breaking the law when this went down, deserve some blame.  Yes Meserhle is a fool for doing what he did and he is serving time, but remember, he wouldn&#039;t have been called out if there wasn&#039;t a ruckus on the BART in the first place.  Right? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why no protests for all the blacks that get killed on a regular basis in Oakland?  I guess when it is not white versus black, it doesn&#039;t matter at all.  Seems strange.  And why blame everyone else?  Doesn&#039;t Oscar Grant, who has had run-ins with the law, and was breaking the law when this went down, deserve some blame.  Yes Meserhle is a fool for doing what he did and he is serving time, but remember, he wouldn&#039;t have been called out if there wasn&#039;t a ruckus on the BART in the first place.  Right? </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are all angry, he deserves more time.  But look at all the peaceful protests that have effected change.  Rioting and breaking laws (what if it is your property) brings no one to your cause, and only creates animosity.  Look at all the peaceful gatherings to highlight the bad actions of the police in the weeks prior to the sentencing.  That deserves attention.  The lawlessness does not. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all angry, he deserves more time.  But look at all the peaceful protests that have effected change.  Rioting and breaking laws (what if it is your property) brings no one to your cause, and only creates animosity.  Look at all the peaceful gatherings to highlight the bad actions of the police in the weeks prior to the sentencing.  That deserves attention.  The lawlessness does not. </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umm, I don&#039;t see racist comments.  Just comments on using the energy on creating real change at a community and national level, and examples from other communities working on change.  I agree with another comment that mentioned when white cops kill white victims and no one comes out to protest for an unjust death.  Why the rioting when it just happens to be of 2 different races?  An unjust death is an unjust death and yes, Meserhle deserves more time, but it clearly does not justify breaking laws. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, I don&#039;t see racist comments.  Just comments on using the energy on creating real change at a community and national level, and examples from other communities working on change.  I agree with another comment that mentioned when white cops kill white victims and no one comes out to protest for an unjust death.  Why the rioting when it just happens to be of 2 different races?  An unjust death is an unjust death and yes, Meserhle deserves more time, but it clearly does not justify breaking laws. </p>
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		<title>By: Nov. 5th Arrestee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nov. 5th Arrestee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 05:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was one of the 150 or so arrested on Friday. I was acting in my capacity as a street medic in case the police used violent tactics on the march.  
 
As someone watching the march very closely for possible physical conflict, I saw the the vandalism that folks are up in arms about, and it was not representative of the march in general. Also, I believe that any characterization of the people as &quot;thugs,&quot; &quot;outside agitators,&quot; &quot;undercovers,&quot; or any other label should be questioned. Anger takes many forms, but despite the obvious anger in the crowd, many people were trying to keep vandalism from becoming too widespread. (I can second the comment by Reginald James.) At the same time, people were trying not to put themselves and others in danger by physically confronting the people breaking things or alerting the police.  
 
As for the comments questioning the &quot;military&quot; status of the police, I would argue that the police action Friday was much like a military operation, including some of the equipment used (riot tanks, etc.) and tactics (multiple attempts to surround marchers or cut them off at key points toward Fruitvale BART.) Were the police not acting as a military-like force, the march would have made it to Fruitvale and folks would have been able to speak out about police brutality at the very place where Oscar Grant was murdered. Had the police been attempting to serve and protect that night, perhaps they would have followed the march to Fruitvale, closing off streets on either side to avoid confrontations between cars and marchers, which happens oftentimes when people take the streets in protest.  
 
I believe that the marchers in general should be commended for their discipline considering the spontaneity of the action, overwhelming and provocative police presence and the anger we all felt at the sentencing. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the 150 or so arrested on Friday. I was acting in my capacity as a street medic in case the police used violent tactics on the march.  </p>
<p>As someone watching the march very closely for possible physical conflict, I saw the the vandalism that folks are up in arms about, and it was not representative of the march in general. Also, I believe that any characterization of the people as &quot;thugs,&quot; &quot;outside agitators,&quot; &quot;undercovers,&quot; or any other label should be questioned. Anger takes many forms, but despite the obvious anger in the crowd, many people were trying to keep vandalism from becoming too widespread. (I can second the comment by Reginald James.) At the same time, people were trying not to put themselves and others in danger by physically confronting the people breaking things or alerting the police.  </p>
<p>As for the comments questioning the &quot;military&quot; status of the police, I would argue that the police action Friday was much like a military operation, including some of the equipment used (riot tanks, etc.) and tactics (multiple attempts to surround marchers or cut them off at key points toward Fruitvale BART.) Were the police not acting as a military-like force, the march would have made it to Fruitvale and folks would have been able to speak out about police brutality at the very place where Oscar Grant was murdered. Had the police been attempting to serve and protect that night, perhaps they would have followed the march to Fruitvale, closing off streets on either side to avoid confrontations between cars and marchers, which happens oftentimes when people take the streets in protest.  </p>
<p>I believe that the marchers in general should be commended for their discipline considering the spontaneity of the action, overwhelming and provocative police presence and the anger we all felt at the sentencing. </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, man. Pat yourself on the back&#8212;Europe has a totally clear history when it comes to race/nationality politics....  
I mean, that is if you excuse those pesky World Wars, and contemporary immigration/border politics. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, man. Pat yourself on the back&mdash;Europe has a totally clear history when it comes to race/nationality politics&#8230;.<br />
I mean, that is if you excuse those pesky World Wars, and contemporary immigration/border politics. </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s with all these reductive assumptions about who is and isn&#039;t rioting/looting/demonstrating?  
Is it fair to say that Blanggley&#039;s second comment qualifies as just plain racist? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#039;s with all these reductive assumptions about who is and isn&#039;t rioting/looting/demonstrating?<br />
Is it fair to say that Blanggley&#039;s second comment qualifies as just plain racist? </p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Burris, an attorney for Grant&#039;s family, said at a news conference after the sentencing that the message to African Americans in the Mehserle case is that life &quot;can be taken from you with no just cause and no price to pay.&quot;   
 
People took to the streets on Friday to say that this was intolerable!  The courageously faced an army of brutal cops in riot gear armed with shotguns, helicopters and more.   To those who would condemn the protest ask yourself -- what are you more upset at -- that a few windows were broken or that this society says that the life of a young Black man is not worth very much.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Burris, an attorney for Grant&#039;s family, said at a news conference after the sentencing that the message to African Americans in the Mehserle case is that life &quot;can be taken from you with no just cause and no price to pay.&quot;   </p>
<p>People took to the streets on Friday to say that this was intolerable!  The courageously faced an army of brutal cops in riot gear armed with shotguns, helicopters and more.   To those who would condemn the protest ask yourself &#8212; what are you more upset at &#8212; that a few windows were broken or that this society says that the life of a young Black man is not worth very much.   </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuck a few cars and windows&#8212;a cop literally got away with murder. You should be angry. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck a few cars and windows&mdash;a cop literally got away with murder. You should be angry. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann_Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann_Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huge injustice, but at least Mesherle was convicted and sentenced to some time. Unjust as the sentence was, and it was very very unjust, I don&#039;t know of that happening before and I think the Police Officers Association is frightened by the precedent. I hope the Grant family&#039;s appeal, and even the retrial re the &quot;with a gun&quot; provision results in a better ruling.  
  
But, in the meantime, I&#039;d like to hear the Mayor of Oakland, the City Council, and the Oakland Police condemn the racist murder, the barely trained BART cops armed to the teeth, and the sentence, and say that they will not tolerate anything like the Oscar Grant shooting in Oakland. (Now maybe someone&#039;s going to tell me they&#039;ve arleady said that? Or, that they already tolerate that? Or both? Please do let me know what I don&#039;t know. And that&#039;s still what I&#039;d like to hear, and see for real.)  
  
I&#039;m also hoping that some of the Oscar Grant Movement got involved in the BART Board of Directors elections. In San Francisco, I don&#039;t think so and the best candidate, Bert Hill, who was most likely to challenge the idea that these cops are fighting the War on Terror in our transit system, lost to undesirable incumbent James Fang.  
  
I wrote some Facebook Notes urging involvement in the East Bay BART elections back in July, but don&#039;t yet know what the outcome of those races was in the East Bay. I understand the street protest, and the need to get together and speak out, but the heavy police presence and arrests--is predictable and not likely to change much.  
  
I&#039;m guessing that Oakland had that many police present for fear that Mehserle might have gotten parole, which could have put the whole City in danger of burning down and not done anybody much good.  
  
Did the Coalition for Justice for Oscar Grant participate in the BART Board District elections in the East Bay? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge injustice, but at least Mesherle was convicted and sentenced to some time. Unjust as the sentence was, and it was very very unjust, I don&#039;t know of that happening before and I think the Police Officers Association is frightened by the precedent. I hope the Grant family&#039;s appeal, and even the retrial re the &quot;with a gun&quot; provision results in a better ruling.  </p>
<p>But, in the meantime, I&#039;d like to hear the Mayor of Oakland, the City Council, and the Oakland Police condemn the racist murder, the barely trained BART cops armed to the teeth, and the sentence, and say that they will not tolerate anything like the Oscar Grant shooting in Oakland. (Now maybe someone&#039;s going to tell me they&#039;ve arleady said that? Or, that they already tolerate that? Or both? Please do let me know what I don&#039;t know. And that&#039;s still what I&#039;d like to hear, and see for real.)  </p>
<p>I&#039;m also hoping that some of the Oscar Grant Movement got involved in the BART Board of Directors elections. In San Francisco, I don&#039;t think so and the best candidate, Bert Hill, who was most likely to challenge the idea that these cops are fighting the War on Terror in our transit system, lost to undesirable incumbent James Fang.  </p>
<p>I wrote some Facebook Notes urging involvement in the East Bay BART elections back in July, but don&#039;t yet know what the outcome of those races was in the East Bay. I understand the street protest, and the need to get together and speak out, but the heavy police presence and arrests&#8211;is predictable and not likely to change much.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m guessing that Oakland had that many police present for fear that Mehserle might have gotten parole, which could have put the whole City in danger of burning down and not done anybody much good.  </p>
<p>Did the Coalition for Justice for Oscar Grant participate in the BART Board District elections in the East Bay? </p>
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		<title>By: Superior European</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superior European</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s most amusing and delightfully entertaining to see how deep the interracial hatred runs in California of all places. :-D 
 
Goddess willing, we&#039;ll soon be stacking on beer and calling in sick to watch a race war in the USofA broadcast live on our TV in Europe and cheer as America&#039;s shallow foundations disintegrate in flames! Hip, hip, hooray! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s most amusing and delightfully entertaining to see how deep the interracial hatred runs in California of all places. :-D </p>
<p>Goddess willing, we&#039;ll soon be stacking on beer and calling in sick to watch a race war in the USofA broadcast live on our TV in Europe and cheer as America&#039;s shallow foundations disintegrate in flames! Hip, hip, hooray! </p>
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		<title>By: Reginald James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reginald James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who want to malign all the protesters arrested, here are a few quotes from people who marched in response to vandalism: 
&quot;Why the f*ck they doing that?&quot; - &quot;Stop that shit. This is a working class neighborhood.&quot; - &quot;If I wasn&#039;t anti-violence I&#039;d whoop yo ass. Don&#039;t hop on them cars like that.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who want to malign all the protesters arrested, here are a few quotes from people who marched in response to vandalism:<br />
&quot;Why the f*ck they doing that?&quot; &#8211; &quot;Stop that shit. This is a working class neighborhood.&quot; &#8211; &quot;If I wasn&#039;t anti-violence I&#039;d whoop yo ass. Don&#039;t hop on them cars like that.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Freedom_fighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom_fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the only way they can silence people who speak out against their illegal actions.  Well, it&#039;s high time the public start treating public servants just like what they are. PUBLIC SERVANTS.  There to serve the public, and they damn well start being afraid of what the people, their masters will do when they step out of line.I&#039;m sure everyone has heard the phrase, when people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.  It&#039;s so true.  They need to be scared out of their wits at the thought of what we the people will do if they even think about opressing us.  They need to be made to answer to us. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the only way they can silence people who speak out against their illegal actions.  Well, it&#039;s high time the public start treating public servants just like what they are. PUBLIC SERVANTS.  There to serve the public, and they damn well start being afraid of what the people, their masters will do when they step out of line.I&#039;m sure everyone has heard the phrase, when people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.  It&#039;s so true.  They need to be scared out of their wits at the thought of what we the people will do if they even think about opressing us.  They need to be made to answer to us. </p>
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		<title>By: freedom_fighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom_fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch the video again, he was not resisting.  And guess what, people have a right to be out after dark.  The Government is prohibited by the constitution from infringing upon the rights of the people that are not granted by government, but by God, thus they can not take them away.  Their attempts to do so is an act of war and they lose any protections or immunities.  It&#039;s high time the government start fearing what the people will do if they even think about stepping on the toes of liberty.  They should be AFRAID, they should fear us, as they are public servants and it&#039;s high time the public start treating them as such and put them in their place when they step out of bounds from the publics will. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the video again, he was not resisting.  And guess what, people have a right to be out after dark.  The Government is prohibited by the constitution from infringing upon the rights of the people that are not granted by government, but by God, thus they can not take them away.  Their attempts to do so is an act of war and they lose any protections or immunities.  It&#039;s high time the government start fearing what the people will do if they even think about stepping on the toes of liberty.  They should be AFRAID, they should fear us, as they are public servants and it&#039;s high time the public start treating them as such and put them in their place when they step out of bounds from the publics will. </p>
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		<title>By: Freedom_Fighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom_Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s called agent provocetuers.  The police go in wearing plain clothes and push a few people and smash a few things and then the police in gear use that as a &quot;reason&quot; to go in and take the whole group down.  The police have done it over and over and over and have been caught doing it, but people forget and think, oh the police didn&#039;t do that this time, oh no, they learned their lesson.  I say to that, guess again folks.  Most everytime they want to make a big takedown and unlawfully silence the people, they use agent provocetuers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s called agent provocetuers.  The police go in wearing plain clothes and push a few people and smash a few things and then the police in gear use that as a &quot;reason&quot; to go in and take the whole group down.  The police have done it over and over and over and have been caught doing it, but people forget and think, oh the police didn&#039;t do that this time, oh no, they learned their lesson.  I say to that, guess again folks.  Most everytime they want to make a big takedown and unlawfully silence the people, they use agent provocetuers. </p>
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