1.) kilo g's video of chuck nolan's arrest doesn't show the events leading up to the arrest.

2.) kilo g doesn't want officers to make threats in front of his 3-year-old son. (informing him that he'll be arrested if he violates a restraining order isn't a threat in my opinion, but that's beside the point.) why does he feel it's ok to say "get up off here with that faggot shit!" in front of the boy?

3.) why would a person call himself kilo g — or GOTTI for that matter! — unless he wanted to be perceived as a thug? it strikes me that many young men in communities such as hp embrace the image of a hardened criminal (see the backdrop of the "join our struggle" poster above) yet still expect to be coddled by police. it's a double standard basically.

4.) alcoholism is not a crime, true, but public intoxication is. i for one don't feel threatened by police because i don't get drunk in public, nor do i brandish knives. on the contrary, the police make me feel safe, which brings me to my next point…

5.) what kind of society do you want to live in? i've lived in richmond, and i've spent a considerable amount of time in hp at work and as a volunteer. you probably will disagree, mesha, but i think it's fair to say that the crime rate would skyrocket if communities like these were patrolled much less. hunter's point is not an under-served community; it's a community in which many residents don't utilize services to their gain, and i feel sorry for the remaining residents who pay the cost on their neighbors' behalf.

6.) mesha, your conspiracy theory is…elaborate. it's less of a stretch to suppose that harding was involved in the shootings in seattle and thought the officers pursuing him were aware of his crimes there. (this would explain why he fled to sf in the first place and why he responded seemingly disproportionately by firing, given that all they witnessed him do was jump the gate. also note that the seattle pd is beyond the scope of your conspiracy.) this is just conjecture; he's innocent until proven guilty, and he won't stand trial, so the seattle events are irrelevant. i mention this only because it's perhaps more plausible than your explanation.

I agree with you completely in your response to Mesha. It's people like Mesha who refuse to accept the fact that there are thugs running rampantly in their community. Kenneth Harding was a cold blooded thug and there many others just like him walking our streets. The world is a better place sans a rapist and murderer. Mesha's depiction of the above stated events is so outrageously idiotic it's not even worth mentioning. God Bless the SFPD and SFFD for their tireless work. As a fifth generation San Franciscan I know the history of the city and the departments that help to maintain order.

Mesha,

It's too bad you rely on a Youtube video from a crappy Metro PCS phone as your "evidence" of what happened to Kenneth Harding. Your statements are unsubstantiated and inconsequential; nevertheless, it appears you have a problem with authority. Police Officers and Firefighters put their lives on the line every single day to protect the wonderfully unappreciative citizens of San Francisco. No conspiracy or cover-up took place. The facts are that an idiotic 19 year old ran from the Police, shot at them and himself! Thank the Lord Jesus Kenneth Harding did no injure anyone else.

U: "Seamus i take it your a mall security guard that failed the mental ability test to become a thug withe a badge."

You take it wrongly then.

Harding was not shot in the back several times. He was shot in the leg by a policeman's bullet and was shot in the neck/head by a bullet from a .380 cal weapon, which has been recovered. Investigators have tested the weapon and report the fatal bullet was fired from the recovered weapon.

I don't think Harding threw the weapon. It appears Harding was running and fell and the weapon was dropped.

U:
"The police profession has a high level of domestic abuse, suicide, aswell insanity."

True. They're stress cases and they're alienated from non-cops.

U: "At one time i worked for the California Highway Patrol…"

Good agency.

Anyways, tq for your input, though input reads hyperbolic.

It is one thing to question and provide an alternative to the mainstream media. It is quite another to write stories that are blatantly contradicted by facts. Just because the police and the mainstream media report one thing does not mean that the opposite is true. The cause of death of Kenneth Harding is admittedly unknown and still under investigation. Maybe you should report that? Continuing to emphatically state that he was murdered by the police is irresponsible and juvenile.

You are doing your community a great disservice by writing these inflammatory stories.

Re video: I don't know about them saying what you say they said. When I watched, I did notice that if it was a cell phone, it was a cell phone with a trigger guard.

There's too many things required for a cover up.

You really think the County Coroner would substitute a .40 cal bullet with a .380? And, do this knowing CSI would test the gun to see if it fired the planted bullet? That's a stretch only the faithful would make. I prefer firmer confidence. Faith is wishful thinking projected onto the world & it'll spin a head 'round like Linda Blair.

Thanks for the reply.

Since you mention bayview where I live, I witness brutalization of kids by Bayview PD in endemic proportions.

No powder burns, but powder residue. Powder residue does not come with a name tag, and can be introduced on flesh or clothing by merely brushing a recently fired gun on the body

Have you ever heard of the BLue Wall Of Silence, described by ex-seattle chief Norm Stamper book "Beeaking Rank"?

The only "wirtness" wo clained to have seen Harding fire is the videographer of the first tape, shown …. hidden face and artificially distorted voice, llikely a cop. The video he produced was taken off the net, then magically reappeared with a mORPHED picture of the blurry outline of a "gun" on the floor, picked up by a kid in a hooded striped T-shirt. Unfortunately for the liars, I still have the original video, with slow motion frame by frame view of the kid picking up a CELL PHONE from the floor, and saying while he looks right imto the camera angle at close range " Look. it's his CELL PHONE"

I think there are plenty of cases of real racism and police misconduct for Bayview to work with. Note the murder (and hate crime) of a black man by white racist thugs in Mississippi.

If there is a conspiracy, it would have to involve…
The County Coroner (The bullet)
SFPD CSI (The powder burns)
SFPD (All on scene would have to lie)
Witnesses (Who did see Harding fire)
Other Citizens (who filed and YouTubed Harding's gun recovery and removal)

A cover up involving so many dissociated people would unravel very quickly.

I think an independent inquiry would be a good idea.
Though, I don't think such an inquiry would back up the Bayview's story of how events unfolded.

Thanks for time